Comments for Road to Failure: Scalability, Startups, Computer Science, and occasionally NoSQL http://www.roadtofailure.com Scalability, Startups, and Computer Science. Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:45:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on HBase vs. Cassandra: NoSQL Battle! by NoSQL Is Not SQL And That’s A Problem « rlblogs.com http://www.roadtofailure.com/2009/10/29/hbase-vs-cassandra-nosql-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-2741 NoSQL Is Not SQL And That’s A Problem « rlblogs.com Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:45:37 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=84#comment-2741 [...] data persistence and access solutions that challenges the long lasting legacy of RDBMS. Competition between HBase and Cassandra is heating up. Amazon now supports a variety of consistency models on [...] [...] data persistence and access solutions that challenges the long lasting legacy of RDBMS. Competition between HBase and Cassandra is heating up. Amazon now supports a variety of consistency models on [...]

]]> Comment on How To Make Life Suck Less (While Making Scalable Systems) by Scale and Scalability: Rethinking the Most Overused IT System Selling Point for the Cloud Era « IT Expert Voice http://www.roadtofailure.com/2009/09/09/how-to-make-life-suck-less-while-making-scalable-systems/comment-page-1/#comment-1877 Scale and Scalability: Rethinking the Most Overused IT System Selling Point for the Cloud Era « IT Expert Voice Mon, 17 May 2010 16:07:18 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=78#comment-1877 [...] that system re-architects face today, Bradford Stephens offers a frame of mind that he calls, “How to Make Life Suck Less.” It’s based on a simple concept: Failure will happen. Thus, plan for redundancy such that when [...] [...] that system re-architects face today, Bradford Stephens offers a frame of mind that he calls, “How to Make Life Suck Less.” It’s based on a simple concept: Failure will happen. Thus, plan for redundancy such that when [...]

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by araybould http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1875 araybould Mon, 17 May 2010 13:37:04 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1875 We should distinguish between SQL and the relational model of databases. The latter is of considerable value, regardless of whether one is using SQL (and SQL itself is criticized by relational proponents as being a poor implementation of the model.) We have been here before. In the beginning, RDBMSs had performance problems, and were not used for intensive data processing. Moore's law took care of that for a while, but then the growth of the internet, together with new, data-hungry techniques for analysis, have brought the wheel full cycle. Moore's law has an interesting role in this cycle, having made those new techniques possible (or at least practical). We should distinguish between SQL and the relational model of databases. The latter is of considerable value, regardless of whether one is using SQL (and SQL itself is criticized by relational proponents as being a poor implementation of the model.)

We have been here before. In the beginning, RDBMSs had performance problems, and were not used for intensive data processing. Moore’s law took care of that for a while, but then the growth of the internet, together with new, data-hungry techniques for analysis, have brought the wheel full cycle. Moore’s law has an interesting role in this cycle, having made those new techniques possible (or at least practical).

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Bradford http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 Bradford Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:15:43 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1609 Sasa -- it is a bit of an oversimplification, but there's a kernel of truth. NoSQL is all about being aware of the sacrifices you need to make for scalability up front. The RDBMS is "everything to everyone", and it's difficult to scale. Sasa — it is a bit of an oversimplification, but there’s a kernel of truth. NoSQL is all about being aware of the sacrifices you need to make for scalability up front. The RDBMS is “everything to everyone”, and it’s difficult to scale.

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Saša Tomislav Mataić http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1591 Saša Tomislav Mataić Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:41:58 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1591 Could it be stated that SQL is one approach, and the idea behind NoSQL is the other approach to data organization, management and structure. Maybe SQL is "thesis" (being really thought through, engineered and sucessfully used), NoSQL is "antithesis" (pragmatic answer for data management) and we have yet to see emergence of a "synthesis", an approach which combines these two in one scalable, simple and quick way of handling data? It seems to me that SQL is a bit over-engineered, extremely smart solution, and NoSQL is a discovered pattern of use which solves 90% of problems which SQL suffers from. But, I may be oversimplifying :) Could it be stated that SQL is one approach, and the idea behind NoSQL is the other approach to data organization, management and structure. Maybe SQL is “thesis” (being really thought through, engineered and sucessfully used), NoSQL is “antithesis” (pragmatic answer for data management) and we have yet to see emergence of a “synthesis”, an approach which combines these two in one scalable, simple and quick way of handling data?
It seems to me that SQL is a bit over-engineered, extremely smart solution, and NoSQL is a discovered pattern of use which solves 90% of problems which SQL suffers from. But, I may be oversimplifying :)

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Merv Adrian http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1570 Merv Adrian Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:57:33 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1570 Wonderfully written and entertaining. Thanks. At its heart, you've nailed the problem as being in the difference from the norm. I'd add that it challenges a belief, propagated for 3 decades, that the RDBMS is the universal solution to anything that requires data persistence. That's always been nonsense. And it gets farther from reality as more data types, more usages, and more volume make that fact more apparent. Wonderfully written and entertaining. Thanks. At its heart, you’ve nailed the problem as being in the difference from the norm. I’d add that it challenges a belief, propagated for 3 decades, that the RDBMS is the universal solution to anything that requires data persistence. That’s always been nonsense. And it gets farther from reality as more data types, more usages, and more volume make that fact more apparent.

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Bradford http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1564 Bradford Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:18:09 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1564 Tim Anglade gave a talk recently with the statistic (I believe the $150B included software and services). Tim Anglade gave a talk recently with the statistic (I believe the $150B included software and services).

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by eric norlin http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1561 eric norlin Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:06:15 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1561 Bradford - file under "great minds think alike" - http://gluecon.ipower.com/blog/?p=201 great post. Bradford –

file under “great minds think alike” –
http://gluecon.ipower.com/blog/?p=201

great post.

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Jan-Piet Mens » CouchDB (and a bit of Lotus Notes) http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1560 Jan-Piet Mens » CouchDB (and a bit of Lotus Notes) Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:04:10 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1560 [...] database, a non-relational datastore, one which belongs to the group of NoSQL databases. (More on NoSQL here.) Contrary to a relational database (RDBMS) in which data is contained in tables, rows, and [...] [...] database, a non-relational datastore, one which belongs to the group of NoSQL databases. (More on NoSQL here.) Contrary to a relational database (RDBMS) in which data is contained in tables, rows, and [...]

]]> Comment on NoSQL: Why it’s So Damn Sticky by Chad http://www.roadtofailure.com/2010/04/08/nosql-why-its-so-damn-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-1556 Chad Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:50:44 +0000 http://www.roadtofailure.com/?p=183#comment-1556 Where are you getting $150M for the database market size? IDC says ~10M for database software. Where are you getting $150M for the database market size? IDC says ~10M for database software.

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